Curse

Keero89 · Nov 28, 2007, 01:40 AM // 01:40

Including Elites, which is a good one since I don't get [skill]Flail[/skill] or the Faction ones? Been using Flurry on my Axe build, but I'm going Hammer since Sword/Axe builds that I ran on my W/E wasn't really that good. Should I go an Elite stance, or keep with the unlinked ones?

mrmango · Nov 28, 2007, 02:15 AM // 02:15

Flurry is fine tbh, but Frenzy is better as long as you manage it well and bring Rush (great cancel stance).

Elite-wise, Battle Rage is fine, but I don't really like it

cellardweller · Nov 28, 2007, 03:09 AM // 03:09

Flurry is the best with a hammer. Axe/sword goes well with tiger's fury and a zealous weapon.

Marverick · Nov 28, 2007, 03:19 AM // 03:19

Frenzy is best with a Hammer, that -25% damage REALLY hurts with Hammers.

[skill]Tiger's Fury[/skill] is probably your best bet really, as said above. You can use a Zealous weapon to keep it up or use [skill]Ferocious Strike[/skill] if you're running Swordsmanship since there's not really any useful Sword elites in Prophecies.

Of course if you have someone else in your party holding aggro besides you, you can use Frenzy if you bring a cancel stance.

Omniclasm · Nov 28, 2007, 03:21 AM // 03:21

Yeah...if you are using Flurry with a hammer, you may as well use a sword/axe, with a shield, and no stance.

Utaku · Nov 28, 2007, 06:46 AM // 06:46

I'd use Frenzy without a doubt. With high health and high armor, you're not targeted for very long anyway.

**Marty Silverblade** · Nov 28, 2007, 08:32 AM // 08:32

Proph isn't nearly as hard as the other 2 campaigns, so feel free to use Frenzy once you get a decent feel for the game and how stuff works.

Arkantos · Nov 28, 2007, 09:17 AM // 09:17

Battle rage is bad and a waste of an elite slot, tigers fury is bad because you have to spec into BM and it's only a 25% ias. I'd go with flurry, or frenzy if you have cancel stance.

A Leprechaun · Nov 28, 2007, 09:21 AM // 09:21

Battle Rage isnt even an IAS its just a run buff and gives you double adrenaline.
Yeah I'm afraid your stuck with Flurry or Frenzy for now. Dwarvern Battle stance is fun on a Hammer warrior though you cant keep it up all the time, or use skills through it.

~A Leprechaun~

Stormlord Alex · Nov 28, 2007, 10:45 AM // 10:45

I'd Frenzy, personally.

Or you could use Flurry is you're a wuss, though... tbh, I don't get targeted much so Frenzy is pretty safe.

Crom The Pale · Nov 28, 2007, 04:24 PM // 16:24

[skill]Dwarven Battle Stance[/skill] is great on a hammer war to build adren for a knockdown/spike.

[skill]Frenzy[/skill] is good but beware of your surounding when you use it.

iridescentfyre · Nov 28, 2007, 08:59 PM // 20:59

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

[skill]Dwarven Battle Stance[/skill] is great on a hammer war to build adren for a knockdown/spike.

If you simply must.

[skill]Devastating Hammer[/skill] or [skill]Backbreaker[/skill] with Frenzy are less wasteful of your elite slot.

Arkantos · Nov 28, 2007, 09:08 PM // 21:08

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

[skill]Dwarven Battle Stance[/skill] is great on a hammer war to build adren for a knockdown/spike.

DBS is a crappy IAS to use. It's elite, 10e, and you can keep it up indefinitely. I really don't see why you'd suggest this.

Marverick · Nov 28, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54

It's not a bad elite, use [skill]"On Your Knees!"[/skill] to recharge it.

But yea that's not available in Prophecies.

Frenzy is good on Warriors in PvP because they aren't high-priority targets. But Warriors in PvE are usually the ones who go into a mob first to take aggro so Frenzy is a bad idea. That is unless you enjoy being reincarnated as a minion :-)

Prophecies has a ton of mobs with Wild Blow so stances which makes Battle Rage suck worse.

Age · Nov 28, 2007, 11:05 PM // 23:05

I would go [skill]Frenzy[/skill] then to cancel use[skill]Sprint[/skill]the reason there is no great skill in Proph for IAS.

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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
Proph isn't nearly as hard as the other 2 campaigns, so feel free to use Frenzy once you get a decent feel for the game and how stuff works.

On the contrary I found that there were more hexes and conditions in Proph. than the other campaigns especially hexes.I found more conditions in Factions and NF but no where near the amount of hexes and in Proph. you level slower and ascend later in game more like close to the end.Most are 20 anyway by the time they ascend.This isn't the case with Factions and NF.

Snow Bunny · Nov 30, 2007, 06:11 PM // 18:11

Frenzy + Rush = Sex

Tyla · Nov 30, 2007, 06:14 PM // 18:14

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Originally Posted by Snow Bunny

Frenzy + Rush = Sex

QFT!
(12chars)

Yichi · Nov 30, 2007, 07:35 PM // 19:35

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Originally Posted by Crom The Pale

[skill]Dwarven Battle Stance[/skill] is great on a hammer war to build adren for a knockdown/spike.

You're building adrenaline for a KD spike and you have DBS as your elite? No offense, but please stop posting advice.

On topic:

Flurry can be very good, in fact with a zealous weapon can be spammed on recharge. A lot of people have a bad rep with flurry because it was glitched where it did even less damage than was listed. it has been fixed and can be a decent ias if you're not wanting to take the chance of getting caught in frenzy and have no other really viable alternatives for ias.

Frenzy can be amazing. Probably the best ias for a warrior hands down from the origional campaign, but remember to have a cancel stance clost by so that as soon as you see your character taking any decent amount of damage you can cancel frenzy. Rush is a great cancel skill provided you have the adrenaline to use it. If you have to cancel early and dont have the adrenaline for it, you can get caught pretty easily. Sprint is another cheap and good alternative, but you have a similar situation to rush in that sprint has a recharge and you can get caught if youre spamming frenzy a lot.

A Leprechaun · Nov 30, 2007, 08:27 PM // 20:27

DBS is fun to use and can be reasonably effective in PvE. The fact that you cant use attack skills while its up means that you can use "lose all adrenaline" skills without feeling too helpless because you will either be doing an attack chain or be under DBS, 10 second down time isn't that long.
Just use something like this:
[skill]Dwarven Battle Stance[/skill][skill]Tiger Stance[/skill][skill]Mighty Blow[/skill][skill]Hammer Bash[/skill][skill]Crushing Blow[/skill][skill]Lion's Comfort[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill] *Utility*

Use Tigers stance when DBS is down so you're always in an IAS, after DBS your chain will be charged, so go Mighty -> Bash -> Crushing. Lion's as heal or you could take Heal Sig instead, as you will be losing all adrenaline every now and again. As for your utility you could go with a Conjure for extra damage but that would mean you have a lot of energy skills, or you could take something like Mending Touch or "Watch Yourself".
Just a concept, I like the skill.

~A Leprechaun~

Burst Cancel · Nov 30, 2007, 11:35 PM // 23:35

Frenzy. Prophecies damage is borderline irrelevant; if you're really worried about it you can take a protbot.

I mean, hell, some of the jokers I've played with take Frenzy into Hard Mode because they're "PvP warriors" and don't know any better (you ****heads know who you are). We did just fine; prot spirit doesn't give two shits about whether you take double damage or not.